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#387648 - 11/02/09 03:18 AM Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience.
MegaMike Offline
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Ok, before you get started I just want to say that by the time I'm done typing this it will probably be 10 miles long, so I apologize ahead of time, but I can promise you a semi entertaining story if you stick around long enough to read it. By the way, I have not had a girlfriend in nearly 5 years so I just spent about two hours reading tips on this website about dating, etc.

I will also start by telling you all I will be turning 19 on Feb 12th, and the girl I am getting involved with is turning 16 sometime soon, I know that raises some flags but mine and her family are allready good with us bieng together, so that should'nt be an issue, and I'm not the typical teen-aged guy who is attracted more to good looks than a attractive personality. Normally I would not be interested in someone that young, 15 is a complicated age for a girl, I understand, and I know that me saying she doesnt seem like other girls her age sounds pretty cliche, but I'm not really kidding when I say she acts like girls four or five years older than herself. With that set aside, I will get started.

I will start from the VERY beggining, before we met, how we met, and where I want this to go.

My school has an annual Autum Festival, it is held in one off the softball fields outside the school itself. I'm a senior in high school so I had the responsibility of running one of the many booths that were open during the festival, my job was to collect the money from people who were paying to do the football toss, and the basketball throw, I was also running the arm wresteling booth, in which I would arm wrestle anyone who thought they could beat me, it costed one dollar to arm wrestle me, and if they won they would get two sodas of their choice. The night went on, I collected money and let a few elementry level kids beat me at arm wrestleing so I didnt look bad, also beat pretty much anyone my size who would come up and challenge me, I also caught the eye of this girl as well, but at the time I did not know.

About an hour goes by, I leave my booth because my arm is tired and I want to mingle with some friends, so I started walking through the open field. I begin to pass a small group of people, and as I walk by, some guy asks me " Do you give away free hugs? " with a smile on his face. To those of you who are wondering, yes, he is gay, but no I did not know he was gay at the time. A cute girl who was standing in the back of the group with a red face gets pushed in my direction, she turns around and tries to tell her friends she doesnt want a hug ( She was pretty embarassed, though at the time I didnt know it. ) I quickly look the group over, and say "Sure, who wants a hug?" The blushing girl looks at me, smiles, and sais " Awww! thanks! " in a happy sort of way, I felt pretty good myself too. Well, she turns back to the group of her friends after the hug, and a friend of mine who was standing in the same group of people walks up to me and tells me the guy that asked if I gave away free hugs was gay, and me bieng the homophobe I am, just walked away as fast as I could (I'm not trying to offend anyone, but I am a bit homophobic.) I find my friends, and tell them about the gay guy and the hug, and we all just laugh about it. The festival ends, but the night goes on.

I get home, take a shower ( I was dirty and probably didnt smell that good after a hot night of constant arm wresteling. ) and put on some different cloths, spray them over with some cologne, me and some friends go out to a dance at the town civic center. We get there before everyone else almost, there were maybe 10 or 15 people there when we showed up ( Not that many ). It seems really boring at first because no one was really there, so I start to consider leaving, but dont. I hang around for a while, drink a few sodas, talk with my friends, etc. I'm sitting at the edge of the dance floor with my friends watching all these people dance, and I notice the gay guy from the festival is there danceing, and wow this guy is DANCEING. We cant really help but laugh at some of the stuff this guy pulls off on the floor. The song ends, and I get up to walk over to get a soda out of the cooler on the other end of the building. On my way to the cooler, the gay guy comes up to me and asks me if I would dance with his cousin, you must understand that I was incredibly uncomfortable, the guy was less than a foot away from me, asking me if I would dance with a family member of his. I had to assume he was talking about another man, so I instinctively said " I would really rather not " he was pretty persistant in trying to talk me into danceing with this cousin, but I keep saying no. He doesnt take no for an answer, literally. The guy takes me by the hand, marches me over to this cute girl on the edge of the dance floor, takes her hand, and introduces us. Turns out his cousin was the same girl that I hugged at the festival earlier that night.

At this point he puts my arms around her waist and her arms around my neck, I'm as red as a beat because I've locked eyes with one of the most attractive girls I could meet, and she was just as shy as I was. The gay guy, who I will from now on refur to as Jordan, walks to the side of the dance floor and watches us from afar. A soft song was playing, so we started to rock from side to side softly moving to the music. It was the first time in my life I had ever danced, so my mind was focused on " Am I doing ok...? Does she think I'm doing ok..? " I was more nervous than I had ever been in my whole life. I looked at her and said " I'm so sorry, he just walked me over and this is what happened " She looked at me and said it was ok with a big smile on her face, the whole time I had an ear to ear grin as well. I told her that it was my first time danceing and I really didnt know what I was doing, and she laughed than said it was also her first time and not to worry about it, which really made me feel a lot more comfortable than I had been feeling, lol. We maintain eye contact through most of the song, and dance like that for about 3 minutes, just gently moving back and forth to the music.

The song ends, and we both walk over to the edge of the dance floor, take a seat, and we just talk to eachother for the next 10 minutes. We exchange names, and talk about what we like about eachother's physical appaerances and such, she comments on my eyes, I comment on her hair, etc, it all goes pretty dang good. By the time the next song starts we decide it was to loud in the building for us to talk, so I ask her if she wants to walk outside with me so we can get to know eachother better. We do, and we talk for the next 45 minutes, learning about eachother. I wont go into detail about what we talked about, lets just say that by the end of the night, we both knew we enjoyed eachother's company. Before we leave, I get a picture of us outside the building together, and we exchange phone numbers.

That was the end of my Friday night.

Saturday, late in the afternoon me and a group of friends decide to go trick-or-treating. ( I know I'm a little old, but we didnt have anything else to do so we figured it would be fun, lol. ) We do that for about 2 hours, than we start to drop people off back at their houses. Me and two of my best friends decide to go to the house that girl lives at that I met at the festival and danced with at the dance. We stay there for about five hours, get to know eachother a little better, play on her nintendo wii for a bit, and basicly just have an all around great time, fun laughs, the whole package. Everyone was happy. The time comes for us to leave, it was around midnight, me and the girl are standing on her front porch, looking into eachothers eyes, and instead of kissing goodbye we hug for about 20 seconds ( Long hug, I know. ), I dont want to jump into the relationship that much on the second day of knowing the girl, right?

Thats how my Saturday night went, and now its Sunday night, didnt get to do anything with her today, but thats allright.

I'll get to the real point of this post now, I have made plans for us next weekend, if she is free, of course. I plan on us going out to a local bowling alley for an afternoon/night of fun with friends. I would pay for everything, including her food, etc. I dont have problems asking a girl to go out with me to some place, I do however have problems with conversations, like many guys do. She is just as shy as I am, so she wont likely be making any of the first moves either, so I'm pretty sure it's up to me whether we become an official item next weekend, and that is what I plan on doing, asking her out. I would greatly appreciate any relationship advice that is appropriate for first dates, and a creative way of asking her out would be nice, its a week away so I have time to think up some topics, but any outside help is welcomes, which is ultimately why I am posting this, so I can hear your voices.

So, what could we talk about? What should I do as far as physical contact? She is comfortable with me having my arm around her, she likes to rest her head on my shoulder apparently, is that all we should really do at this point? How should I "ask her out" ? I dont just want to say " Wanna go out with me? " ya know, I want it to be a memorable night, etc. I pretty much allready know she will say yes, which is why I'm not really worried about asking her out as much as how I should ask her out, etc.

If you have any questions that would help you help me, than feel free to ask.
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#387649 - 11/02/09 04:27 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: MegaMike]
Carl Offline
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I'm sorry you consider yourself homophobic, MegaMike. My daughter is gay, and I've known and liked many gays. It doesn't rub off.

As far asking the 15-year out, I'm aware that in a few years, a four-year age difference will seem of little importance. But despite your experience or maturity, I think the gap is too wide right now for anything beyond friendship.
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#387653 - 11/02/09 05:00 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: Carl]
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MegaMike, I hate to tell you this, but it's said that people who are homophobic, usually have homosexual tendencies! I know this is not what you wanted to hear, but it's true!
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#387654 - 11/02/09 05:33 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: MegaMike]
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Aside from your jokes about me bieng homophobic and possibly gay, I will take your advice and keep our relationship as a friendship for the time bieng, though this does not remotely meen I will put her in the dark. If you are getting the vibes that I was considering going passed the physical bounderies of a casual kiss, I was not, I'm aware that our age difference is a very potential issue and that it can potentially cause some serious trouble. Please keep in mind that while you are in high school, after turning 18 you run drasticly low on possible dates due to the age problem, and just like this girl I'm writing about, most of the girls in my senior class are allready taken by guys who have long since graduated highschool. ( Girls are generally interested in older men. )

I only added the bit about me bieng a homophobe because it was cannon to how me and this girl met, and there is actually a long story on why I am homophobic which I would rather not discuss on an internet forum, so please guys, keep your responces on topic and out of the gutter, I'm here for some serious advice, if I wanted sarcastic responces hinting towards me bieng a homosexual I would have went to my friends for their inexperienced advice. Your sincerety would not go unappreciated.
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#387655 - 11/02/09 06:08 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: MegaMike]
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MMike, I said what I said in a lighthearted manner, but not a joke. It IS TRUE.

And BTW, I said nothing that had to do with the gutter. I don't think being gay or not has anything to do with the gutter, at least in my mind!! And I was responding to something you put in your post. Completely on topic.

But having said that, let me tell you that I am not your person to ask advise. There are other people who will be glad to help you. More members are logged on here in the daytime. If you had a bird, I could probably help you.

Welcome to the forum MegaMike.


Edited by tweetymom (11/02/09 06:14 AM)
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#387661 - 11/02/09 09:08 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: tweetymom]
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Hello MegaMike & welcome smile

You are aware of the age-gap concerns, so I won't go into them, except to say that teenagers change quite a bit over time ~ their interests, who they find attractive, etc, etc. You and she, if you get together, may not develop in parallel. You may not want the same things, after a while.

You seem to have started off well with this girl ~ especially as you managed to walk and chat for 45 minutes, almost as soon as you met. Just be yourself.

Letting her know that you are homophobic, when she has a gay cousin, may not go down well.
Being homophobic, whatever the reason, is not a good thing.
And no-one on here lets conversation fall into the gutter, unless they wish to be banned. I see no reason to even mention such a suggestion.

Asking for advice on any concern is a sensible thing to do ~ so well done on that ~ but, if I were this girl, I would not be too happy about you discussing & describing your meeting & worries on a public forum ~ not unless you did it anonymously ~ which you haven't, since there are two very recognisable photos posted.

Good luck smile


Edited by PDM (11/02/09 09:10 AM)
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#387685 - 11/02/09 01:12 PM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: MegaMike]
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Firstly, thanks to everyone who has welcomed me to this forum.

She was able to understand that I was a little uncomfortable with that, we have allready had a discussion about her cousin, and after a little while getting to know him I'm sure I will be able to feel at ease with him bieng who he is, I'm not the type to just immediatly shut another person out because of a minor detail about their personality or preferences, when I said I was a bit homophobic, I did'nt want you to think that I freaked out and went over the top when I learned he was gay, I was uneasy with it, that is all.

I'm sorry for reacting a little defensive upon typing my last post, I am not accustomed to someone telling me I likely have homosexual tendencies, and I would like to make it clear that I am by no means a homosexual, or have ever had thougts of turning homosexual, so can we please leave that discussion alone? Thanks. I am well aware that many homophobics have homosexual tendencies, but I don't fall into the category. (Directed towards tweetymom)

I kept her name, and my name to myself, I dont really feel that I gave out any information that could come back and effect me, or her in a negative sort of way, have I? As far as the way we met, I dont really see how telling you this would be an issue, but if I am not seeing something eye to eye with you feel free to enlighten me. I have been useing internet forums for the last three or so years, and have been putting up pictures of myself for just as long, I'm comfortable with other people bieng able to see the person on the other side of the screen, that does'nt bother me, thanks for your concern, but unless there is some rule that states I can not do such a thing with my signature, or avatar, I doubt I will remove them.

I really made this post to get advice on simple coversation starters that would not seem to come out of the blue, leaving me feeling awkward upon trying to start a conversation with her, as I said before, she allready has told me she likes me, and I her, we know eachother fairly well for two people who have only known eachother for one weekend, as far out as that sounds, our first conversation with eachother covered the last ten or so years of our lives. So, now that we have all covered pretty much everything else I said, does anyone have an experience, or something of the sort I could learn from?
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#387691 - 11/02/09 03:09 PM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: MegaMike]
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Originally Posted By: MegaMike
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I kept her name, and my name to myself, I dont really feel that I gave out any information that could come back and effect me, or her in a negative sort of way, have I? ...

How would she feel if she read this?
I think that it would make me feel very uncomfortable, if I were her, so it's just a friendly warning ~ nothing to do with rules.
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#387703 - 11/02/09 05:54 PM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: MegaMike]
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Originally Posted By: MegaMike
and a friend of mine who was standing in the same group of people walks up to me and tells me the guy that asked if I gave away free hugs was gay, and me bieng the homophobe I am, just walked away as fast as I could (I'm not trying to offend anyone, but I am a bit homophobic.)
Go xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.


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#387704 - 11/02/09 06:39 PM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: IronFront]
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Ironfront, what the heck are you trying to do to this guy? Your comment is obnoxious to say the least! And completely unnaceptable. I am offended by it. What's the matter with you to put something on here like that?! It shows your immaturity, in my opinion!

?And aren't you supposed to be in school right now?!
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#387706 - 11/02/09 07:44 PM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: tweetymom]
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Dinah, did you hit "notify?" I did. I sincerely hope that this will be the very last straw for PDM, regarding IronFront. I can't imagine a more inappropriate post on any forum.

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#387716 - 11/02/09 08:47 PM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: ]
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I've enjoyed this site for quite a while, but if this obnoxious little twerp is not banned from the site, not only will you lose me, but I'm sure others. How dare he say that!!!!!!!
PDM, it's up to you to ban him. What type of site is being run here if you allow comments that like?


Edited by luv my bird (11/02/09 08:49 PM)

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#387717 - 11/02/09 09:21 PM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: ]
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I totally agree with the ladies above. IronFront you went way way over the line with that comment.It was totally inappropriate. It did however prove just how immature and obnoxious you are.


MegaMike, pay no attention to IronFront. He's always trying to stir things up. He's an ***

I think this was the last straw too. It should not be overlooked again.
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#387720 - 11/02/09 09:34 PM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: kksuns]
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No, I want him out of my gene pool.

Srsly, xxxx!

Originally Posted By: P&R Mom

I can't imagine a more inappropriate post on any forum.
I h8 gays?

Originally Posted By: luv my bird
What type of site is being run here if you allow comments that like?
One that values free speech?

Originally Posted By: kksuns
MegaMike, pay no attention to IronFront. He's always trying to stir things up. He's an ***
I have no idea why you are supporting a homophobe.


Edited by PDM (11/02/09 10:03 PM)
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#387724 - 11/02/09 10:06 PM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: IronFront]
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Ironfront has already been banned temporarily.
He has been warned both before and since.
He has now done something which warrants a complete ban ~ but I can only do this while I am online and witnessing the behaviour.


This is not, by the way, supporting homophobia.


Edited by PDM (11/02/09 10:09 PM)
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#387725 - 11/02/09 10:09 PM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: PDM]
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PDM, are you telling us you can't ban him now, having read what he has written? For heaven's sake, why not?

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#387728 - 11/02/09 10:14 PM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: ]
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I have banned him.
But, in response to ~ 'What type of site is being run here if you allow comments that like?' ~ I don't, but I can't ban him until I get online ~ and he was on a warning.
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#387729 - 11/02/09 10:20 PM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: PDM]
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I see, I see; my apologies -- I misinterpreted your sentence.

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#387731 - 11/02/09 10:35 PM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: ]
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Sorry I didn't make myself clearer smile

Now back to the thread ...
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#387738 - 11/02/09 11:06 PM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: PDM]
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YEAH HES RIGHT I DONT LIEK GAYS EITHER!!!

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#387742 - 11/02/09 11:36 PM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: chnageisasound]
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What a new alias Yowo?
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#387743 - 11/02/09 11:52 PM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: kksuns]
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Thanks for the notifications ~ troll banned.

I am sorry that the thread has deteriorated like this.
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#387744 - 11/03/09 12:08 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: MegaMike]
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Originally Posted By: MegaMike
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I really made this post to get advice on simple coversation starters that would not seem to come out of the blue ...

If you get on well;, and both families are happy aboutt you dating, you can just rel;ax and bne yourself and the conversation should flow hapily.

If you want some ideas, just so that you feel better about it, there are many, many questions that you can ask, which might lead to discussions. You have probably already covered some of them:

Favourite sport; any sport she is good at; teams she supports; favourite book; least-liked book; favourite author; favourite poem; favourite song; favourite group; favourite genre of music; has she travelled much; where has she been; does she speak languages; what are ~ and what have been ~ her hobbies; where has she lived; how does she celebrate her birthday / Christmas / Easter / Thanksgiving & Hallowee'en ~ if she does celebrate them; does she have or has she had or would she like to have pets ~ what kind; does she go horse-riding; does she like bowling; what is her favourite film; favourite actor & actress; does she believe in ghosts; or UFOs; is she interested in fashion; what was she like when she was little; what are her ambitions for the future; does she like computers; does she hope to learn to drive; does she ski or skate; does she enjoy photography; has her family researched their family tree; what does she do or like to do at the weekend; what is her favourite colour; is there any country she would love to visit; dies she have any plans to travel; is there anyone who she would love to meet (living or not); what is her earliest memory; does she like writing; does she consider herself creative; what is her favourite school subject; does she hope to go to university ~ which one; etc, .....
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#387745 - 11/03/09 12:25 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: PDM]
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lol pdm great topic suggestion and shes right you can basicly talk about almost anything with a girl being ; how she does in school - like PDM said which sports she likes - if she likes video games (i met some girls that have X-boxes and stuff and enjoy playing them)- fav foods - theres just too many things too name hopefully you get the idea and i hope i helped just a lil =)

only thing im against is the age difference but if you guys really like each other then it shouldnt be a problem, yet i havent read where u wrote she was 15.


Edited by Ziggy (11/03/09 12:26 AM)

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#387748 - 11/03/09 12:34 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: Ziggy]
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I'm new here too, but this community seems kind of unfriendly to me. Why are you welcoming the original poster when he is blatantly discriminatory towards an entire social demographic, yet banning someone who had enough courage to call him out?

I love birds, but I don't know if I want to be associated with a forum like this.

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#387749 - 11/03/09 12:37 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: go_go_go]
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go go go you dont have to participate in any thread but bird threads.
and WELCOME to the forum =)

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#387751 - 11/03/09 12:50 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: Ziggy]
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I know I don't have to, but if I participate in bird threads with fellow bird lovers who also happen to be homophobes I'm associating with homophobes. I don't want to do that. Can someone please explain to me how it's reasonable to ban someone for attacking another's prejudices unless the board itself shares the same prejudices?

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#387752 - 11/03/09 12:51 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: Ziggy]
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Originally Posted By: Ziggy
go go go you dont have to participate in any thread but bird threads.
and WELCOME to the forum =)
Way to not even attempt to answer the question.

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#387753 - 11/03/09 01:00 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: trupunx]
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LOL the question wasnt for me to answer simply because im not an admin

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#387755 - 11/03/09 01:08 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: Ziggy]
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Lol -- Ziggy, you don't have to defend yourself here, hon (i.m.o.) smile Go-go-go & trupunx (who are really Yowo/Ironfront, no doubt) are merely "stirring the pot." If they really are not Yowo, then they are capable of reading all the posts in this thread and therefore seeing that the banning has nothing to do with homophobia at all.

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#387757 - 11/03/09 01:12 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: ]
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I don't understand. Ironfront called him out on homophobia, I really don't see how this is worth banning someone over.

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#387758 - 11/03/09 01:14 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experien [Re: ]
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I don't know who Yowo is, but I assume he is the same person as Ironfront. If myself and trupunx (I don't know who that is, but they seem to be more sensible than anyone else I've encountered on here) were the same person, that would make no sense. If I were a troll, why would I make two accounts?

I read all the posts. I don't know what Ironfront said (for some reason people aren't allowed to speak their minds without censorship here?), but he was banned for attacking a homophobe. Looks like it has something to do with homophobia to me.

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#387760 - 11/03/09 01:17 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: Ziggy]
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I find it interesting that the last two posts just joined this forum today, and haven't said a word about their birds, and seem to already know about the previous posts subject matter. How did they know to look for these particular posts? Yowo??!! This is rediculous!

PDM, if I'm wrong, I apopagize. It just seems weird to me.
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#387762 - 11/03/09 01:20 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: tweetymom]
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What kind of bird is a Yowo?

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#387765 - 11/03/09 01:24 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: tweetymom]
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Long story short, go-go-go, it wasn't about the homophobia issue, and you cannot have decided that trupunx is more sensible than anyone else unless you have read thousands upon thousands of posts in about an hour or so since you've joined.

I'm with tweetymom on this one... I feel that any newbies whose posts are hostile, argumentative, and immature are probably Yowo playing games. It's a shame, really, that PDM is going to waste so much time hunting down IP addresses, but that's the sort of selfish immaturity that Yowo evinced for months.

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#387766 - 11/03/09 01:26 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: General Disarray]
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you guys cant see if its coming from the same I.P , and then just I.P ban him so he wont be able to come on to this forum from his comp.

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#387769 - 11/03/09 01:32 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: Ziggy]
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Okay, I think PDM has that ability...

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#387770 - 11/03/09 01:33 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: Ziggy]
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I seriously have no idea who Yowo is, but doesn't it seem somewhat ridiculous that he/she would make multiple accounts and use them simultaneously?

If you've noticed, I have talked about my birds. I have three parakeets, two boys and a girl. I've had Aidyn and Erica for two years now and I just bought another named Matthew. I have a cage that is four feet tall with a three foot diameter, although they're so used to me at this point I usually just let them loose in my apartment. Anything else?

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#387771 - 11/03/09 01:35 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: Ziggy]
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Hey Zig I think they can , but it takes time and the mods cannot be everywhere, all the time.

I have a new suggestion there is an "ignore this user" button, it can be found by click on their name or viewing their profile, we should empower ourselves and use it, if we cannot just ignore the posts so we can stay on topic.

Personally, PDM listed a great list of topics, you could write a first date hand book with that, I think it is great.
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#387772 - 11/03/09 01:36 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: go_go_go]
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go_go_go and I just joined today because we both posted on talkbudgies.com and he found this forum and told me about it so we both joined today because we both posted on talkbudgies for awhile and this looks like a really great forum too so we would like to be able to post here to and talk about our parakeets and get some advice since you guys seem to know a lot about birds and love them just as much as we do its not fair that your yelling at us when we just love our birds just as much as you do.


Edited by General Disarray (11/03/09 01:37 AM)

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#387775 - 11/03/09 01:38 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: go_go_go]
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With all due respect, you have walked into the middle of a mess. Yowo is making multiple accounts because he is 14, hostile, and angry, and has been interfering with thread after thread for a long time. Believe me when I tell you that most regular forum members are relieved that he has finally been banned.

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#387777 - 11/03/09 01:40 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: General Disarray]
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disarray i like the pic with ur keet skateboarding lol even tho im not a fan of skateboarding but with a keet on top i might have to change my opinion a bit =P

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#387778 - 11/03/09 01:40 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: go_go_go]
userrenamed Offline
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Originally Posted By: go_go_go
I seriously have no idea who Yowo is

Isn't yowo Iron Front or whatever? I just joined, but I noticed everyone calls him/her that.

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#387780 - 11/03/09 01:42 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: ]
P&R Mom
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Okay, General Disarray, but it's not fair for you two to come onto this forum and within an hour or so start criticizing the moderator's decision about banning a member, making assumptions about members being homophobes, etc.

Perhaps you could read various threads, past and present, and glean helpful info about keets, and then when this nonsense settles down, we can all get along!

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#387790 - 11/03/09 02:06 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: ]
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This IronFront fellow seemed like a nice intelligent person with a lot to offer this site.
Why'd he/she get banned?
Maybe they should review and possibly over turn this ban.

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#387793 - 11/03/09 02:10 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experien [Re: ]
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We're not making assumptions, he openly claimed to be a homophobe. You sided with him. That makes you a homophobe by association, does it not?

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#387794 - 11/03/09 02:10 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: Stop_theInsanity]
Ziggy Offline
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how are there so many new members just from today amazing o-0,
nice to see the forum getting more populated =D

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#387795 - 11/03/09 02:11 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: Stop_theInsanity]
Stop_theInsanity Offline
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A little birdie (no pun intended)said some people were being homophobic on here.
Thats terrible cut that out NOW.

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#387796 - 11/03/09 02:11 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: go_go_go]
Eugene Offline
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Originally Posted By: go_go_go
We're not making assumptions, he openly claimed to be a homophobe. You sided with him. That makes you a homophobe by association, does it not?

My thoughts exactly.

lrn2read p&r mom

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#387803 - 11/03/09 02:21 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: ]
General Disarray Offline
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Registered: 11/03/09
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Loc: Sweden
Originally Posted By: Ziggy
disarray i like the pic with ur keet skateboarding lol even tho im not a fan of skateboarding but with a keet on top i might have to change my opinion a bit =P


lol i know rite?

Originally Posted By: P&R Mom
Okay, General Disarray, but it's not fair for you two to come onto this forum and within an hour or so start criticizing the moderator's decision about banning a member, making assumptions about members being homophobes, etc.

Perhaps you could read various threads, past and present, and glean helpful info about keets, and then when this nonsense settles down, we can all get along!


I wasn't criticizing moderators decisions about banning a members making assumptions about members being homophobo members I am sorry about the trouble other members are causing for your members I just want to keep it about my pets and get to know you guys because your members seem really nice!!! smile smile

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#387811 - 11/03/09 02:30 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: General Disarray]
Stop_theInsanity Offline
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Registered: 11/03/09
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I also want to talk about my love of birds.
In addition I'd like to exstinguish all racism and homophobia.
Now I'm not a religious man but didn't Jesus say something to the like of
"you can celebrate your unity till every gay is dead
but why don't you stop your fronting with real unity instead
and on a better dime on this sh**** little globe
we would crucify the racists and be bashing all the homophobes"


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#387820 - 11/03/09 02:41 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: General Disarray]
Ziggy Offline
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I just want to keep it about my pets and get to know you guys because your members seem really nice!!! smile smile [/quote]


lol we all do
and thank you LOL =p we are and this forum is very helping toward keet problems and any other animals

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#387834 - 11/03/09 02:57 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: Ziggy]
Eugene Offline
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...except this section of the forums isn't about Parakeets.

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#387838 - 11/03/09 03:02 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: Eugene]
Stop_theInsanity Offline
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Posts: 19
My bad for the wrong section.
Thanks for the heads up Eugene.
You seem like a good person.

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#387927 - 11/03/09 01:38 PM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: General Disarray]
PDM Offline

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Registered: 12/16/04
Posts: 22697
Loc: UK
Originally Posted By: General Disarray
go_go_go and I just joined today because we both posted on talkbudgies.com and he found this forum and told me about it so we both joined today because we both posted on talkbudgies for awhile and this looks like a really great forum too so we would like to be able to post here to and talk about our parakeets and get some advice since you guys seem to know a lot about birds and love them just as much as we do its not fair that your yelling at us when we just love our birds just as much as you do.


Hello General Disarray.
I have too place a warning here that, since there has been a spate of new members, and a number are trolls, most have been banned and the rest are on 'watch'.
Thank you.
_________________________
"The secret of success is constancy to purpose" - Benjamin Disraeli.

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#387929 - 11/03/09 01:51 PM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: PDM]
PDM Offline

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Registered: 12/16/04
Posts: 22697
Loc: UK
Now back to Mega Mike.

As you can see, you have been given some of the advice that you required and you have also received a fair amount of criticism about your statement that you are a little homophobic.

I think that this is understandable, because prejudice is not a nice thing to feel. (Though I condemn the immature & trollish way that this was done)

You are still very young and, hopefully, as you mature, you will learn to accept each person as an individual.

Try to imagine how you would feel, if people were suspicious of you, or hated you, or were prejudiced against you, simply because of your sexual orientation, or the colour of your eyes, etc.

That would be wrong & unfair, wouldn't it?
Think about it.

You ask about conversation possibilities, but interacting with people is not just about talking to a girl on a date; it is about how you conduct yourself in all situations, with all sorts of people.

I have no idea why you are phobic, but, whatever caused this, it is not the fault of every gay person, so it is illogical to be phobic about all gay people.

You may find that you will arouse unfortunate responses elsewhere ~ as you have on here ~ if you do not have a good think about this and, hopefully, reconsider.
_________________________
"The secret of success is constancy to purpose" - Benjamin Disraeli.

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#390398 - 11/28/09 06:25 AM Re: Hi guys, I'd appreciate some words of experience. [Re: tweetymom]
mattieygabiey Offline
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Registered: 11/23/09
Posts: 21
Ok, lets get down to business. I'm not here to make any uncomfortable or uncalled for comments...I'm here to help :))

I'm the same age as your friend so therefore I think I can help you out here. First off, as far as conversation goes, try to find something you guys have in common and talk about that and see where that goes. Also try learning some more about her but DO NOT pressure her into saying anything she doesn't want to. (not that you would just a warning though, 15-16 yr old girls...especially shy ones are sensitive sometimes about what they tell people.)

Also, try to make her laugh, not rude jokes though, girls like guys who make them laugh and fell comfortable. Be her friend as you already have been being. Maybe compliment her outfit or eyes or hair to let her know non-chalantly that you think she is attractive. (*whispering this* girls like that...:)...) Good job so far btw. :))

As far as physical stuff. Don't push it. give her hugs and arm around her. and then when you are saying goodbye if you are up to it kiss her cheek sweetly and casually.

Asking her out....hmmmm...this is a toughy! First of all don't be all typical dummy and say 'hey u wanna date' or 'hey u wanna go out with me?' Try something more along the lines of this...

"I had a lot of fun with you tonight, and I really like you. I think you like me a lot too. I know I'm a little older than you...I hope this doesn't bother you. So...I'm nervous in saying this...but...do you want to be my girlfriend?"

Then wait for her answer. I hope this helped...and ignore their silly comments. :))

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