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Okay, this is gonna be awkward i dont even know if you guys answer questions like this. But im willing to bet there wont be a more professional site with honest advice around. There are four people involved.

Me, my gf (B), her male best friend (W) and his gf (S). Ive been dating B for almost 2 years. W has been dating S for almost a year. First you should know that both me and W are good guys, and we are serious with these girls. Me and W as most guys probably do, have things we'd love to try, but most likely will never, and thats okay. Obviously one of them is the 3some idea, what guy doesnt ever think about having 2 girls in bed for one kinky night at least? Very few ever get this opportunity. Well ive been talking to my gf and she wrote it off. Thats fine its her choice i respect it. So i asked if however she'd ever even if its just once ever consider doing something a little more kinky with people she knows and trusts and wont go blabbing to everyone about a special night that rarely happens we want to keep this between the 4 of us. W talked to S and she gave the same response. When I found this out i started talking to my gf about if there was any possibilty of doing anything with the other couple. She talked to S and S so far for the little ideas we have had, has been okay with the idea. Ive talked to W and hes hesitant like i am for the right reasons. We cant really do much. Thats the thing. W and my gf are best friends, and i dont want that to get weird. W and I both love our gfs and neither of us want to do the others, well not really, even though we both find eachothers attractive physically for different reasons...I mean i imagine W and I both wouldnt mind having both girls touching us or something, but we dont want to make out or have sex with the others gf. Thats for sure. We already established that. And that little tid bit is out in the open now so now the group can get past it. Funny enough the body types of the girls W and i usually go for are what eachother has. I usually like the tiny cute bodied girls, which S is, so at the very least i find her cute. W usually likes girls who are bigger with big boobs, which my gf has. So their is that attraction. We arent a swinger group. None of us pretend to be very experienced. And all 4 of us like the idea, but are totally nervous moving forward. This ever happens its only gonna happen once or twice max.

The two girls like the idea because they know that if we all do this, it will do two things. Get me and W the once in a lifetime chance to at least do some group fun, and me and him wont ever ask about it again, because we know how lucky we'd be. And the 4 of us would have friends that we could act like adults around and stop being so nervous. Also the 2 girls trust eachother, and to be honest, when tipsy they will make out every now and then cuz they know nobody will say anything and it drives me and W nuts.

The one idea I kinda had was that S's parents go away on weekends in the summer and the 4 of our schedules permitting we were going to hang out anyways. Movies, swim, beach, bbq have a couple drinks. We arent going to wreck the house or invite people over for a party thats a bad idea. So in other words, there are friendships that could get weird. We are limited to the actual amount of sexual interaction we could do. W talked to my gf and they both asked eachother if their friendship would be ruined if they even saw eachother naked, not doing anything to eachother mind you, and they both said no it wouldnt. So at least thats out of the way. But now my question is, where to go from here?

Besides confirming that all 4 people are confident enough to do it there are so many questions, bariers, nerves and boundaries both in friendship and sexually. Normally when 3 or 4 people get together for this there arent serious friendships or relationships so they can do w/e and not feel worried or bad about it. We dont have that luxury. But its becoming apparent that the others are starting to like this idea but none of us have a clue what we have to do before to ensure this doesnt become a disaster!!! Because if it is sexually a disaster thats not going to be cool. I and we all really have never been in a position where others want to do the same thing so we never thought thered be a chance it would happen...

What do we have to do? What do we have to talk about or establish first? And how do we actually go about this? Do we have to do things like be more sexual with eachother like jokes, friendly flirty long before the actual event to make us more comfortable? And what CAN we even do if we arent gonna penetrate the others gf or make out with them? What can we do? What are we left with? We are completely lost...even though we are leaning toward it, but none of us want this to go wrong.

Sorry this is so long, i desperately hope you have some advice. HELP!




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No I am not going to write out a fantasy for you (as tempting as it is :-)

You have done well so far in reaching an understanding... but I'd advise that you not try to talk about doing more because someone could get cold feet. Maybe you should all agree that if something happens in the heat of the moment and someone is upset by it they should feel free to say (in a nice voice) "time out."

Flirting and teasing before the fact would be fun if done carefully.

Rather that plan this for her parents' house my advice is to go to the beach, stay at a hotel, go out to dinner and then spend the night together.

What to do? Have a rule that everyone keeps on their bottom underwear. Here you would have to agree that making out is okay-- otherwise it would be too frustrating and actually unnatural and unrealistic. Also, each person could watch the other three if that is agreeable.

Relax and enjoy this... otherwise you've wasted a great moment.

Good luck! George



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